Does this game suck?

Wicked General
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The game ramps up too hard without a way to level and gear yourself. There is no explanation as too how to play the game,. No Tutorial or tips on how where or what to do. The enemies are too hard. Gear is not adequate and breaks (for no reason). Combat is slow and cumbersome and the aiming mechanic is a guess…sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t.

I’ve tried 3 times to get into the game and it just seems like it’s broken. Sometimes when I start a new game, I get gear and other times, I’m stuck with a weapon that is borderline useless.

Also, parrying sucks! How the hell are you supposed to parry a triple attack with a staff?

I’ve beat ER, Souls games, Sekiro, etc and they at least give you a chance to gear up wtihout harsh penalties.

So what gives? Are you going to fix the game or just continue to isolate people who actually want to give it a fair shake?

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Yes, it sucks all of my free time away.

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In all seriousness. It is a work in progress. I do agree that the beginning is Way Way Way harder than any other part of the game, the tutorial is barebones. There are a lot of things promised, like an in game compendium with all the affix explanation and there is a lot of work being put into it constantly. If you are feeling like there isnt enough information available right now to enjoy the game properly, I would say wait until further development is done.

Or join the discord and discuss strategy/gameplay and how to overcome things there : )

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Game difficulty is normal, except boss in Crucible - it has toooo many hp.

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You and I have a vast definition of normal, sir!

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for me personally the game is more on the less difficult side.

durability does not really matter, durability loss on death was nerfed almost into meaningless. in the starting area you find enough repair powder and after opening the door to the blacksmith he repairs your equipment for free until you reach sacrament. and once you reach it, well u get access to upgrades, shops, enchantments etc, which makes the following regions really do-able.

yes starting gear is nothing fancy, but even with a basic sword you can fight all enemies. it has been done countless times.

parrying i partially agree is not where it could be. it is not as satisfying as in dark souls etc, because u do not get a riposte. there are several discussions about that, for example here: "on Parry" enchantment roll frequency on 2-hand weapons and here: Suggestion: More dynamic parrying through different parry types

but you can parry with staffs and 2 hand weapons, which u can not in dark souls (or any other souls like i know). so it is still viable.

the combat honestly feels good to me. hits feel juicy enough and depending on your equip load evasion is as expected. you also slow roll in dark souls when too heavy.

the aiming is busted, i agree there, auto aim/lock on is terrible, it does focus random enemies rather than the closest one and turning it off is even worse, because u lose lock on when u walk too far away or change direction. this also is discussed in countless threads, maybe you could contribute your opinion there: Lock On Completely Broken

this game imo really shines with exploration and map design. finding new shortcuts and searching every inch of the map is super rewarding and imo comparable to great games like the fromsoft games.

and aside from all that we will be getting more and more changes. there is a skill tree in discussion, multiplayer will come and i am sure we will get some sort of rework with crafting and enchanting things.

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in reality the game is “difficult” only until you arrive in the city, once you have the right equipment to have useful skills and equipment with a weapon with valid runes the game becomes very simple… on YouTube you can find many videos that can help you

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It’s partially a survival game meaning you have to ACTUALLY gear up and prep versus slamming your head against the wall until you win. If you’re not doing damage the most likely thing is you’re not leveling up your weapons, it makes a vast difference. Past that I can’t agree on difficulty this is probably the easiest game that happens to have a soulslike combat system besides ER.

Unlimited heals, enemies stay dead, affixes available on all gear, MH style buffs, unlimited weapon arts not capped by your number of flasks, etc

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Super Mario Wonder is on the less difficult side. NO rogue or souls game is on the less difficult and you pretending that the game is “too easy” is a slap in the face for those who struggle to try and play the game.

Parrying is utter trash. When you do it, enemies straight up ignore you and attack through you. It SHOULD stun them. It SHOULD give you an advantage and encourage you for using the game mechanic. It does NOT!

As for exploration, the game is too dark at night, which leads you to fall off cliffs, miss resources, and leave you bumbling around as you’re trying to gather resources to deal with the stupid difficulty of the game and the constant need to heal. (Is it really so hard to be able to allow you to heal at a camp or whisper like every other game in the genre? )

The bottom line is that it is taking away from the fun of the game and discouraging you from getting good at playing it. Most people who are on these forums have been playing this game…A LOT! They are already geared up, have their gear in their chests, so they can play around. For those of us who actually find these types of games challenging, it’s a bad experience. There is absolutely no reason to have to deal with durability on equipment, not being able to respec, things are too damn expensive in the world, the town is unnecessarily large and spread out (you coud literally put all of the vendors within reach of each other and make the game WAY more enjoyable and people would want to come to town.)

This is after playing for 3-4 hours a night, where I have defeated the first boss. I’ve tried to move forward, but I can’t because I get one or two shotted by everything in the game. So even when I’m TRYING to parry and I miss (because every enemy has unrelealistic stutters to all of their move sets and the hit box for the parry is not working correctly), I die. When I die, I lose money and time having to repair my gear. (Insert the cycle OVER and OVER AND OVER AND OVER again!)

They are going to isolate and miss out on a large amount of people playing this game because they are not listening to the vast majority of people reviewing the game saying it’s TOO DAMN HARD in the beginning of the game…and that sucks, because I REALLY like the game and I llove Ori and I want them to succussed.

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There is nothing easy about the game…even for a souls game, the combat in the beginning is stupidly hard and the game ramps up too quickly. If they are wielding an axe, they have 3-4 move sets that if you mess up the parry or dodge (because you’re constantly out of focus…how does focus even work1??! The game doesn’t explain it at all!), you die. Most people who are claiming the game is too easy are living off of Youtubers who told them how to build their character. For someone who just wants to play a game, have a challenge, and rejoice in the victory, it’s a bad experience in it’s current state. As for upgrading your gear, I’d like to ask you HOW??? There is no explanation on how to do this and even if you farm the beginning of the game for all of the resources, you run out as soon as you come to town to get the upgrades to be able to level your gear. Kudos on you for being able to scour the internet and found out that information, but I have not been able to find it and I’m not going to listen to some stupid YouTuber bragging about how amazing his build is and scan through their useless videos for tips.

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You shouldn’t have to go to YouTube and steal other peoples ideas on how to play the game to play the game.

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I don’t know what that means…

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how do you slot other weapons? Where is the guide that tells you how to play the game?

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How do you get focus…and when do you have it just being spare? I can’t get the damn bar to move. (It’s bar right?)

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Cool, thanks for the tips. I’m lv8 and it’s taken me a week to get there. So…what do I do in the meantime to actually get high level when everything kills me in a few hits?

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I think you’re correct. I’ve almost uninstalled the game multiple times as I can barely do the new “quests” that are being given in the town. I die ALL THE TIME! It’s NOT fun!

Right when I felt like I was getting used to the game, they turned up the difficulty level. Even when I went back to the beginning location, it’s too F’n hard! Kudos to those who can figure out how not to die by the halberd wielding manic who kills you in three hits on a 5 hit combo. You can’t be near him, because then the parry doesn’t work. You can’t be far away from him, because then he throws fire bombs at you that take up half the screen. That dude belongs in the later half of the game.

If you would turn down the difficulty on the game and allow people to practice (without durability penalties), they might be able to keep a higher player retention. .,…and if you’re touting that you made Ori and the Blind Forest, then you need to present that level of accessibility and enjoyment.

…because right now Moon Studios, you are catering to the minority and allowing your egos to power you through the development and design of the game. If you listen to the numberous reviews on YouTube of people who played the game extensively, you have some serious work that needs to be done before this game can go live.

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parrying does stagger/stun them. it just does not give you a riposte.

and on the difficulty side we will just have to agree to disagree. there are tons of games where when u die, u lose all your EXP and your inventory and have to go get it back or its all gone. here you lose nothing. u can die 10 times and your weapon is still at 50% durability.

and if you get 1shot by everything past sacrament, i can only tell you to upgrade your gear. it did not happen to me with multiple characters. Upping gear is the most important thing. So go do some bounties and daily challenges, get some good gear and coin there and upgrade your stuff.

it is NOT a majority saying it is too hard. on the contrary. most people are probably grinding crucible right now, and i am sure people would NOT do that if they thought the game was too hard :smiley:

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I don’t know how to say this is mainly to add context, but I don’t know how to help you. You gave me 2 main questions:

  1. how does focus even work? Have you not noticed how the focus bar goes up when you attack/parry & goes away when you use runes?

  2. “how do I upgrade gear?” The blacksmith???

Like both questions you presented to me I can’t answer in regards to “how to make Wicked easier” both questions presented were tutorial pop-ups or the general basis of how action-RPGs work, how gaming in general works.

This thread reminds me of a post long ago of a guy in a similar situation where he thought the game was extremely hard & the healing system sucked. He became extremely argumentative the entire time for 50+ replies until someone asked him and we found out that the ****** didn’t know he could cook food. He had been healing himself with just mushrooms(which slowly regen health) for 10 hours in the first area of the game. Suddenly the game clicked, he beat the game 30 hours later, loved it. My point here is in regards to those 2 questions you gave me I didn’t consider them a point that needed to be address.

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i removed your insult. even if it wasn’t meant as one please do not be “that guy” :slight_smile:

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If you’ve beaten Sekiro then you can beat this game hands down. My main points still stand(gear upgrades) are what you’re lacking the most rn. This is gonna be a big one this game isn’t a soulslike and yes it is easy once you read all the info here. Consider this game a survival ARPG.

The survival aspect comes from the multitude of recipes/blueprints you can craft where all ingredients must be scavenged. You can buy recipes with really strong buffs eventually from Gordon Ramsay once you rescue him(sidequest) that give you 50% more max stamina/health/focus/attack power for 10 minutes. Each vendor also has recipes/blueprint per tier you upgrade them.

You also have to buy/unlock crafting or refining stations to make the stuff you want. When you upgrade the city you get QOL stuff but you also upgrade the vendors which gets them these crafting/refining stations. The first city upgrade per vendor unlocks a station, every upgrade after makes the station better at what it does. You can turn ore into ingots, plain logs to planks of wood, raw hide into leather, etc. You can buy a house and put crafting stations inside of it, chests for storage, decorations.

You need to have armor/weapon shards + refined ingredients to upgrade shit. The blacksmith for metal gear, the twin madams for leather & cloth gear. This fucking matters because one tier of upgrades can potentially double your armor rating or your weapons damage stat, no I’m not kidding. ARPGs are more gear-focused than soulslikes are.

The ARPG part is unique to this genre and isn’t present in soulslike. All gear can be enchanted at Eleanor(a vendor, pull up your map) which is an RNG roll(yes it’s RNG, no it’s not dumb, get used to it) of affixes, permanently embedded set of effects on gear that affect your moment-to-moment gameplay. These effects can be as basic as adds fire damage scaled off physical stat or as complex as every 5 hits the wrath of lightning can descend upon your foes shit like that. These affixes can also be negative which is purple/cursed gear but that doesn’t mean it’s bad, just something you have to play/build around. Blue enchanted gear is all positive affixes no negatives at all.

You can enchant at Eleanor and you’ll find a lot of affixes are focus-related. Focus goes up every time you do a good thing basically(parry/attack) with affixes existing that make it easier to get focus. There will also be affixes though that get rid of focus decide if you like them or not. Regardless focus only goes away if you: die, have a negative affix, or use a rune(special attacks inherent to every weapon, but are also removable and swappable between weapons). REMOVING A RUNE FROM A WEAPON DESTROYS IT YOU HEAR ME???).

That is literally everything I can think of on my fucking day off. If you still think this game is harder than all the mainstream soulslikes including the original tried & clunky true DS1, I have literally nothing to say. I cannot fathom that you’re experienced enough to beat DS1 but not this, I literally can’t.