I need help, im new to Souls-like & i suck!

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First off, i think this game has insane potential! Like seriously off-the-charts potential & im loving it!!!

I managed to fumble my way to Sacrament, with my character reaching Lv.11.

At this point “apparently” i should be more than capable of killing the solo “Torn Colossus” in the “War Room”.

I feel its a good time to actually make a proper effort to learn the games mechanics, but man i SUCK SO BAD!!!

The “Parry” mechanic, just what attacks of this mob are “Parryable”? Because im unsure if my timing’s terrible or the move is simply “UNparryable” ( coz that IS a thing isnt it?)

The “Block” mechanism too, im using a crappy (admittedly) “Round Shield” & ive not been able to block a single move from this mob. Timing is pretty much a non-component here as the shield is raised as long as the button is held, , so again, WHICH moves actually ARE “Blockable”?

I reckon a large part of the game is to find out the answer to these questions of mine (for each Boss/mob) but im getting killed in seconds flat in that room. Its to the point of “definition of insanity is to repeatedly make the same moves over & over without learning from them!”, so i thought id come here & pitifully ask for advice/help/tips etc.

From what i see online, the majority of the playerbase use LARGE 2-handers, but for me they feel awful! Horribly slow & they make a hard game simply imposssible on top of unenjoyable. And the unenjoyable part is a big no-no for me as i cant/wont play games i dont enjoy.

Help me “Git Gud” or point to some material which will help.

Thanks

EDIT: Ah, i totally forgot to mention im using a 1-hand sword with a shield although tbh i prefer the DEX weapons, fast as possible. But im not outputting enough damge imo so i “Upped” to sword n board.

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There are a lot of different approaches you can take to this mini-boss or any other boss.

I don’t parry. I never parried in hundreds of hours of Dark Souls/Elden Ring and I got to new game+ 5, 6, 7 in all of them.

I rarely block. With a high-poise build it becomes somewhat viable, there are some good shield enchantments in this game (like focus regain on block). Without poise/stamina blocking will get you knocked on your ass or staggered.

Instead I mostly dodge and/or run. The torn colossus has a double-charge that is easy to spot and avoid and it tires him out for a few seconds. That’s when you strike, regain some focus, run away, and wait for the next opportunity to use whatever focus skill you like. When you’re confident, you can roll into its first stab, strike twice and dodge before the 2nd stab. Stick and move. Stick and move. If you’re low level it will require patience, whittling him down a bit at a time.

This game also has a lot of ranged options. Bows and magic require focus, grenades are just consumables. You can also buff damage, health, stamina, poise, focus.

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Many of us of had these same issues/questions when we first started so you are in good company.

I prefer block to parry only because it’s so much more forgiving. Parry is something to do if you want to reach “master” level in terms of becoming a gaming god. You can be good w/out it though.

Blocking comes down to the shield, stamina and the enemy’s attack. The wooden shields are starter shields and you should be on the lookout for a metal studded shield or better if you really want to use block a lot in your defense.

At the end of the day it’s all about not getting hit and dodging is almost always (when you’re not on a cliff ledge!) a good option.

The Torn Colossus is a hard fight for a low level beginner. I recommend not wasting too much time and resources on that fight until you get stronger and have a better grasp of the combat mechanics.

Enjoy the rest of your journey:D

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If you like cheese, you can pull him toward the bottom of the main room. There’s an indestructible chair that he can get stuck on. Make sure he’s on the left side of the chair, and from the right side, you can safely attack him when you have the opportunity.

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The War Room boss is an optional challenge that rewards you with an extra inventory upgrade. It’s meant to be hard. I don’t remember what level I was when I beat it, but the zone had just changed from “Dangerous” to “Moderate”.

I died a dozen times (or two) while learning it’s moves to time my rolls (medium armor) and poke 1-2 times with daggers. Kept my distance to heal if I got hit once, since it could 2-shot me.

Parry: The timing for parry is really strict, so I never bothered to learn it, since failing means instant death most of the time. If you can learn it, it seems to be really good since you can unload charge or focus attacks safely.

Block: Shields only reduce damage (and stun). Unless you are also wearing heavy armor, the boss just hits too hard for blocking to be useful.
If you wear heavy armor, you might want to try the shoulder bash move to stun the boss (not 100% sure it works on that one).

A lot of players use 2H sword because they got the legendary drop from the first boss. The first days after release this dropped as tier 2 and outperformed every other weapon you could get. Still pretty good now, but I also don’t like the slow weapons.

Some food gives you buffs (HP, Stamina), if you lack damage you can use oils.
Oh and if you want to cheese the boss (or if you got it low and don’t want to risk loosing), just throw some bombs.

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Like the others said about dodging and taking your time waiting for an opening is the safest route. That’ll give you time to learn the moves and when you can sneak in an attack safely.

Beyond that, you can upgrade your weapon at the blacksmith, try purchasing grenades, weapon scale potions (these are weapon buffs that last 60 sec and add elemental damage to the weapon).

I just beat that boss the other day with a staff, I just kited him around, used grenades, focus food / potions and hit him with ranged. The back of the room has stairs and a fountain looking structure that I just ran around while getting in my chip damage or waiting on food cooldown or focus to cast.

If none of that helps, I’d suggest going and exploring around to look for better gear or experience. You could also do some of the bounties / challenges from Captain Randolf for some better gear and experience. Stick to the dailies for now though, the weeklies are just as tough as what you are stuck on now.

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Thanks for all the quick replies!

Indeed, i’ll go explore more for now. I didn’t realise it was a difficult mob/boss ( for a newb like myself at least).

Ive not finished the “Potion seller” quest yet nor the “Rats…” one that unlocks housing.

Im in desperate need of Inventory space, so i reckon getting that “House” quest done asap is next for me for now.

Again thanks people :slight_smile:

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I have to say it’s refreshing to have a person say he wants to improve instead of crying that he wants this game nerfed to hello kitty level.

Good luck on your journey Gaelic!

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I don’t know if anyone actually answered the question about which attacks are parryable, so I’ll take a stab at it. Any sort of charging attack / shoulder bash / bodycheck isn’t parryable, but they always have tells, so it’s easy to get out of the way.

Also, ground slams and slam attacks (anything that creates a ground shockwave) also can’t be parried. Finally, projectiles and elemental spells can’t be parried either.

I’m a huge fan of parrying because I love rhythm games, and that’s all combat really is when you think about it. Enemies have set patterns, when you feel the “beat” of their attacks, you can destroy them.

Here’s some Footage of me parrying the crap out of the second boss

(Oh, and kicks aren’t parryable either, as you can see in the clip)

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Бро, терпение и труд тебе помогут, игра на самом то деле не очень сложная. Щит тебе надо прокачать, самому блокировать тоже нужно, Парировать это искуство приходит с опытом, на моем опыте в этой игре практически всех боссов можно отпрорировать, если это Атака ближнего боя. Первое что могу посоветовать это на легких мобах, попробовать порировать. А пока либо глухя защита с хорошим щитом и стаминой и в хорошей броне. Если что, когда будет кооператив готов помочь.

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I just went to the War Room & literally No-hit killed this Boss/mob!

The difference in my play now, NOT using the games Auto-Targeting system & just going manual, is Immense!

Totally loving this game still even in this EA state!

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Thanks for the nice answer, finally a proper answer after all irrelavant wingings.
Love your parrying video too.

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