Immersion destroyed for me + feelings

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Meh…

I think you misunderstood how a hero is build through a story. There, Cerims are legends, not because they’ve face the pestilence once but ecause they’re remember because of it. That’s how a legend work : Someone tell a story about another someone that have made great things.

There is no game where you play the overpowered hero at start and face the greater enemy of humanity 10 minutes after you started the game, it would be pointless.

Your character need to evolve throughout the adventure, you face enemies, you level up, you equip better gear and you get to the final encounter, that’s how stories are made.
Even real legends are built that way, Hercules for exemple needed to accomplished 12 tasks where he get powerfull items.

I think we didn’t play the same NRFTW because when I level my character, I get to spend stats points that enhance my abilities. My gear also empower my character, like in every other RPG…

By the way, judging by every answer you gave, you’re probably gonna show bad faith and try to demonstrate something that doesn’t exist; Because there is not a single game where your character is a gad at start, not even Diablo 1/2 as you said. (more over that in Diablo, gear affects your character and his abilities and have completely random stats, so what does that means ? That legendary item exists in multiple version ? Maybe Thor had to farm Mjölnir multiple time to get the stats he want ? :thinking: )

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I found the game incredibly nostalgic and refreshing at the same time

I can relate and i’m getting a bit of NOX (westwood)vibes!

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I have no idea how you miss everything that is in my messages

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2 possibilities, you either don’t clearly know how to say what you have in mind or what you say doesn’t make any sense

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This is very much a troll. To many ambiguous responses to direct questions.

He is talking about the lack of a skill tree. His reference to D2 and in the context of gear not mattering is so blatantly wrong anyone who played that game would know better.

but it was a fine troll

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Even better if it wasn’t.

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About what job you talking about? Vilagers do their job, you fight with monsters, all is fair.

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Its beyond my imagination how one can not get something so simple explained in the most straight forward way possible

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No, you are 100% wrong in at least few ways with your assumption

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Not about the job but a clear immersion break that made me not continue playing. Very casual feedback of personal experience

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People learnt too well to not look at actual fundamental real things that matter. Most people are trained to look at what they’ve been told, even if its just shallow and not even real perspective

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sure, last cookie for you, troll

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Nah, when everyone have a problem with you, you’re the problem, simple math. Here you’re trying to convince us that you, and only you, have the truth.

You’re talking about some kind of “immersion” because NPCs are saying that you’re Cerim. We all have seen that you don’t understand what a Cerim is, you don’t understand what is a hero and how it’s made throughout a story, and that you definitely don’t have any explain that could make us believe you know what you’re talking about. But you’re a great troll to be honnest.

Once you’ll understand that even if your character is a descendant of a legendary race it does not make him a hero from the begining, you’ll see that what you said is pointless. And because I’m here to help, here’s how a hero is made : by overcoming every challenge he may face. You’re not born a hero, you become one.

In that game, your character level up, you spend stats points and equip gears. Like in every RPG games, gears give you bonuses. and NPCs can help you make those gears even better, that’s called progress.

Yup, that’s because your character was trained at some point, training doesn’t make you a hero, it’s just a step. Even Batman had to train himself.

So why that random villager doesn’t go fight while you’re staying peacefully at the Inn ?

Hopefully, ennemies can’t find gear, they may learn how to equip it and become too strong for us and we might need to call that random villager to help ! :scream:

Really man, no offense there but it seems you don’t even understand how a RPG work.

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I have no clue how this circus is taking place here. I just came here to give my personal feedback to devs on a matter that made me stop playing.

Why are you even replying here?

I explained how the feel of character is being built and in witch particular instances and how the most breakthrough situations building the story and introduction of the character got wiped out by what upgrading gear does for me.

Obviously I don’t know what is Cerim and I don’t know almost anything. But I am talking about beginning of the storyline and character and world introduction and nothing else. Immersion could be broken 5 minutes after the start as well. It doesn’t matter. I talk just about consistency of chain of events till the very first lack of consistency, because this is where I cant pass.

You and most of the people didnt experience the game in this way as I did. It completely doesnt matter because it is my personal feedback, you’re just making a mess, so get lost my friend. Looks like you don’t know what RPG stands for btw.

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You created this circus yourself.

Initially, I took your OP seriously, read your points, gave them thought. I came up with a different perspective to how you might enjoy the game again.

I took the time out of my day to think and respond carefully with a potential way to help you. I was willing to engage.

Your response to my post, made it obvious to me that you are not looking for engagement. Your response made it 100% clear you glossed over my post, not willing to engage with it. On top of that, the way you express yourself makes it seem like you are trolling.

To me it seems like you just want people to agree with you, and don’t care about care about listening to others. Plain and simple confirmation bias, pretending to be blend to counterpoints.

I was willing to engage with you, you did not reciprocate that. Therefore, I wasn’t willing to further engage with you.

And now you are calling other people out for something you created yourself with your half-assed responses. This is entirely self-inflicted, and quite ironical.

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You offered me perspective that doesn’t value things I want to value. Ofc you can explain literally everything in the world in a way that you could enjoy, but it happens by overlooking reality and isn’t a way to go for me for sure.

I’m killing powerful boss which heads of the sacrament say it was completely behind eveyones range, because of how strong it was.

A moment later villagers upgrade my gear and I can destroy that “powerful” boss without blinking an eye. So if they are so great at building weapons why didn’t they figure out they can make a balista and shoot it dead without even getting close? Compared to the power they actually provide in a real world mechanics this should be extremely easy for them. But story says something completely different

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Tbh its inconsistent even earlier, because boss was presented as something very powerful while a moment later it just wasn’t for no apparent reason

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Thanks for further proving my point :+1:

Bye.

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I’m not here to engage indeed. I’m here to give a feedback of something I experienced, because this is my role while participating in early access. And I don’t want to play the game more now, because of what I experienced.

And you just tried to turn attention from the point I was making, which was the exact opposite of entire goal of me posting here. It was out of place even if your intention was good.

Peace yo

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I see reading through the replies a fixation on how villagers are the most important part when it comes to power - equipment gained from them making you times stronger than you’d get by doing things without them etc.

I’m gonna go at this hoping you will really consider and try and explain why it looks and feels cohesive to people like me, on the contrary:

I don’t think the developers were aiming at making a game where the hero raises hell throughout the world and constantly finds power and “trains” to get stronger by simply killing a lot. There are some aspects like that sure, you DO gain XP by killing stuff and leveling up your stats gradually. You DO also find power, in the form of loot which better suits your build. You mix and match those for starters.

But there’s more to it than that. The world is ripe with resources and tools to earn them. There are experts that can take those resources off you and fashion them into something useful.

All the stuff you gain from those people: be it via crafting, buying or upgrading is the result of you earning resources, money and experience. YOU make the choice to look around for more useful stuff besides killing, therefore YOU make the choice to use those and with the help of experts - craft something better for yourself.

It’s meant to be an organic system, a collaboration of many gears that contribute towards something better and stronger. That’s where the immersion comes from. People helping each other and growing, together. You help those experts rebuild their crafting stations and shopping stalls, they in turn offer their services, provided you have the required money and resources to use them.

Yes, there are other games with craftsmen and merchants where they play a lesser part toward making you stronger. Clearly the intention in this one was to make those people’s roles feel more meaningful. You are supposed to make use of them, just ask you make use of your tools. The reward comes from organically making use of all the game’s mechanics.

It’s a system of give and take, not merely take and steadily get better at taking. That’s where the beauty lies for many of us. That said however, it is alright if this type of game turns you off. Not gonna be everyone’s cup of tea for sure!