I am responding because I accidently pressed “vote”button. I am just learning this website and thought it would have option vote up OR down vote. So I want to clarify my vote is not an upvote.
Casuals are important, difficulty OPTIONS are important, and I love that the game has easier options. But everyone has own opinions, I just wanted to remove my accidental “"upvote””
Edit: I was able to remove vote, seems i had to leave topic and come back or refresh the page and it gave me the option. Carry on
False. The Dark Souls series and many other titles are still being replayed endlessly by hardcore players to this day. Casuals usually pick up a game, maybe finish it once (sometimes not even that), and then move on, never to return.
Understandable, but why are you so hyper fixated on hardcore titles then?
Reality is that casual players often jump on whatever the hardcore crowd crowns as “god tier”. Dark Souls, Elden Ring, Path of Exile, Hollow Knight, older Super Mario games - all reasonably difficult or grind heavy, all massively popular, all selling huge numbers of copies.
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Quick note: Zenith, please don’t take this personally. The doom and harsh tone is there for impact. I’m sure you’re a chill guy.
Oh, high and mighty person “with a life”, please enlighten us with your glorious achievements. Or don’t… Statistics already tell the story. Like 99.999% of us, you probably haven’t invented groundbreaking technology, made a scientific discovery, become a world renowned artist, dominated a sport, or reshaped philosophy. History will forget you just as quickly as it forgets the rest of us. So please, spare everyone the “people with no life achievements” angle, it’s just the same elitist ego trip in a different costume from someone who claims to despise it.
Why are you even wasting your time on video games in the first place, especially hardcore ones? They’re a massive waste of time that could’ve been allocated more productively. If you’re someone with a “life”, maybe gaming in general isn’t the most efficient hobby.
But fine, if you have to play something, why not pick titles actually tailored to that profile? Games like Animal Crossing, FIFA, Forza, Farming Simulator, or The Sims. Pure story driven games work great too like The Witcher or Grand Theft Auto series.
Instead, people jump into hardcore titles and then start demanding:
“I don’t have time to grind.”
“I don’t have time to be punished for my mistakes.”
“I don’t have time to learn mechanics.”
“Remove it. Remove all of it.”
Why? If you knowingly walk into a genre built around difficulty, friction, and mastery, why immediately try to sand down every edge that defines it? You don’t walk into a spicy restaurant and then complain that nothing tastes sweet, do you?
I think you do not understand the art of insulting. Or maybe you do, because your initial post perfectly utilized all the stereotypes. Generally, when you try to insult a person or a group, you aim to maximize the effectiveness of the insult. You mercilessly use any weapon in your arsenal to make the receiver as mad as possible. It seems like the “dad gamer” one works pretty well in that regard, so people use it. Same goes for “go back to the kitchen”, or your classic “loser without a life”. Using an insult doesn’t automatically mean the person actually believes in the meaning it carries. People forget that. Hell, even I forget that sometimes.
I’m just gonna put it out there again: this is not a healthy topic. This thread is far less likely to ever see real dialogue and is far more likely to continue to see inflammatory remarks and trolling.
I’m out from here on. I’ve said my piece, and I don’t care whether people value it or not. I know who I side with, and it’s not the people who are telling others that the sign over the gate they’re keeping says “Git gud.”
Yeah, I’m just not gonna bother. They think they own the genre of action RPGs. This game has been declared hardcore by the people that want it to be hardcore, and then ask people why they don’t go and play something else.
They want you to accept the premise that they own the game and you’re the outsider demanding fundamental changes. That never leads to productive discussion.
Poisoning any game with the label soulslike instead of sticking to action RPG will bring this neverending purity test. It’s like those high school kids who think they discovered authentic music via heavy metal and have to filter out the “posers” so they can feel better.
