Multiplayer without friends - experience

First of all, I would like to thank you for your work. The game is awesome. I used to play Diablo 2 and am still playing D2R, but as the decades go by, I am bored with it. I bought NRFTW as soon as it was possible. Previously, I purchased and finished both Ori games, and I knew it would be fantastic. Now, after 480 hours in the game, I have to say it is amazing. The world, the combat, and the mechanics, everything.

The last update was a bit disappointing. I knew your ideas about multiplayer, shaping the world with friends, etc. I am afraid it is not working without them… I found two guys; we played together for two evenings, and we agreed to continue the story together, but they never joined again. So that realm is stuck somewhere in the middle.I wanted to play, so I tried to find a new group. Everyone seems to prefer a fresh start. So I created a new character, entered a new realm, but the group disbanded around level 7. So… Again… Find new people, create a new character, join a new realm… Same end. The procedure for finding players is terrible. Writing to them one by one, waiting for them to answer, checking the time zone… Maybe I played D2 a lot. But I would prefer to join a group around a similar level, spend time together, progress my character, collect items, and repeat if the group was nice. If not, pick another from the list and play there. I played the story multiple times, I built many towns, and now I just want to play with someone. Kill monsters, accept challenges.

And yes, I have friends. But we are 40s. With kids, families. We are not students playing games all night. Only one of my friends owns NRFTW, and he is busy (hasn’t played since the Breach release). Others have time but are stuck in D2 or Oblivion, postponing starting a new game.

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That’s why we should have a list of Realms that are open to join.

Not sure how this related to the devs and what they should have to do.
This game is not co-op oriented game like ‘It Takes Two’ for example.
If you wanna play the game - go on and play it, moreover, the game grants you more better experience than playing in co-op. Especially if compare game with 3-4 players when it drops into complete chaos.

Add an ability to join realm or any other environment which you can share with strangers for a while.

I’m just saying that currently implemented idea works for only in specific conditions.

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For example playing co-op Crucible can be completely independent on the realm.

Quick update just to finish my experience: I wanted to finish the first realm and contacted both players. One of them explicitly refused to play co-op again, so the other player and I completed it with the goal of using the realm for farming. We will probably not meet again.

Yes, there should be a random matchmaking for Crucible so you have a chance of finding other players outside of 3rd party tools / real life friends.

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Yep, turns out you can’t just brute force co-op into a single-player game without any thought.

Furthering the realm’s quest progression status while a friend is offline for the night doesn’t work. Same for doors, keys, ladder kicks, drawbridges etc.

All these things put one or more members of your group of friends in the awkward position of trying to decide what to do for the session if one or more of the friends can’t play that session.

Do half of you continue questing and ruin that aspect for the offline half? Do you not quest but carry on exploring new areas and ruin that instead for the other half? Do you do neither but be relegated to boring farming and upgrades for the entire session? Do you simply not play until everyone can be online?

This entire system needs more thought.

I completely agree. One more aspect is time. As an adult, I might have just an hour or two in the evening and I want to play. I don’t want to spend 20 minutes chasing down the rest of the group to see if they’re available to play right now. I just want to jump into the game and enjoy it. For that reason, it would make sense to have the option to play something independent alongside the shared realm, like Crucible, a large map, or a Rift (you know where I’m going with this). Also, after a relatively short time, the world is essentially completed and, from a progression standpoint, it doesn’t really make sense anymore.

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Lets be real 80%(random % but its very high) of gamers today dont have legit friends to play with. most of us are introverts or just want to play and enjoy random games with each other and make friends along the way.

Perhaps lettings us choose our realm to appear offline/online to the public so other people who want to join our realm with certain critera letting the people know what we are looking for > End Game, Questing, Level XX Seeking help, Seeking new friends.. etc

Look.. I 100% understand the route the devs are going for but those type of gamers are such a small minority of todays gaming. imo.

The NRFTW needs to have sort of lobby system or random search for realms of some sort for people looking for making new friends. Or just want to randomly kill things and help others.

I honestly believe only going through discord(i cant stand discord and avoided it until now) or forums is a step backwards. it takes to long and is more of a nuisance than anything. i have tried this way to only be parred with some of the most annoying people ever… zero consciousness and only thinks about them selves with such selfish tactics to where I didn’t even want to speak. this was mostly a waste of time to the point where i got booted from a realm because I didn’t login for a few days. and losing most of my stuff.

Another note is only 4 to 1 realm is a ball breaker… I mean I joined a few random games to where the host was like shit I gotta boot so and so.. etc.. seemed very frustrating for the host.

This seriously needs to be redone and will actually push gamers like me away.

Thanks for reading, I still enjoy it.

this 100%

with voice chat

Was watching the Q&A from about 12 days ago.

This exact thing is what the devs were saying they wanted to avoid. They explain very good reasons why as well.

Currently this just isnt working in the way they intended it to.

Yup, absolutely agree :slight_smile: