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Wicked Tips & Tricks
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Good evening, sorry for the English but I’m using translator.

I’ve always played Souls, Diablo, BG3, etc., and I’ve always been good with the builds, but in this game I’m having a lot of trouble and would like help.

I’ve already searched online but haven’t found much.

I’ve reached the endgame on maximum difficulty without much effort, a halberd ice with a two-handed hammer. From the endgame on, I’m trying to make a definitive build; the first one is boring. I tried a two-handed pure hammer, but I don’t like the genre; it’s too slow and I took too many hits. I tried a bit of everything and in the end I decided to make a light build with gloves.

I spent hours farming and performing, I put an electricity gem on the weapon because I thought “more speed = more attacks = more electricity around,” armor with indestructibility and irreparable, perks for electricity damage, life steal, healing, stamina, etc., for the gems to.
Story gist: I tried it and it sucks. I don’t do any damage (it takes me to much to kill). My dream of seeing endless lightning bolts is pathetic. I was expecting a bang, but they’re the ones who do the bang to me, because having light armor makes me a mess, especially against the bosses in the plague areas.

I’m having a hard time understanding how all the mechanics work like I’ve never had before with this game… I think they do one thing, but in reality, that’s not the case.

Can anyone help me?

Thanks in advance.

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I became Messi of the game with this build
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Tell me what souls weapons you like, I can tell you what you like in NRFTW

Also tell me the roll you want to have, and if you like/use Charged Attack or not,
also tell me how much you use runes and which ones you like.

Also give me a screenshot of your current build.

Also tell me if you want to be just Strong or OP.

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Hi and thanks for your reply.

I’m answering this way. I’ve been away for a couple of days now, and it’s difficult for me to post anything.

First of all, I’m 40 years old and have three kids. My gaming time is limited, so farming is difficult. For this reason, I’ve tried very little in the game when it comes to weapons, runes, etc.

In Souls and similar games, I always played with one-handed weapons like katanas; I’ve always preferred agility to brute force.
In Diablo and BG3 and similar games, I’ve always been an ice mage (or something very similar).

In NRFTW, I found a halberd early in the game and really liked the combat, so I continued with it until the endgame, modifying the spells, adding ice, etc. Then, thanks to the internet, I discovered that I had to combine it with something with pure damage because once frozen, your weapon does very little damage. From there, I continued with the build, saying, “I’ll change it in the endgame because this system sucks and is boring, but at least I won’t waste resources.”
I’ve NEVER used runes except for utility ones (healing, light, etc.), because they were useless with my build, so it’s a new area for me.
Before deciding on a build, I watched several videos to figure out some styles I might like, so I could then buy/craft the weapon in-game and try it out (so as not to waste too many materials).
From all the videos, I realized this:

  • I don’t like the mage in this game; it’s all about repeatedly spamming runes, and they’re usually the first to be nerfed in an EA game, so I don’t want to redo a build from scratch in the future. I think it’s a class I’d soon get bored of
  • the heavy/paladin, same as above
  • then I saw a video of this Speedy Gonzalez that really inspired me, and I imagined him with lightning and the chaos he could create.

From there, I started trying to create this super-fast build, with high damage, lifesteal that allows you to keep attacking without worrying too much about the damage taken, and lightning galore.

I took a pen and paper (sorry, I’m still old-school), wrote everything down, tried it on a “builders” site, it seemed to work, I started farming like an idiot in the game for several hours, created everything, tried it, and it sucked.

Now you understand my frustration, hahaha

That is the weapon i create :

Claw of the Crescent Moon

Level of everythings = 12

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I need a screenshot with your character and your whole build including the effects of the weapon and armor enchantments, the rings and the attributes to understand why your build is weak.

The weapon you are using is not bad.

If you have any chests with weapons that interest you, send me a photo of that too so I can suggest a build with those.

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Thanks.

As I said, I can’t post screenshots for the next few days because I’m away.

Could you tell me what the basic requirements are for a build with the indicated weapon and cloth/leather armor?

From memory, I’ve created:

  • Common weapon with 4 gems: lightning, life steal, maximum stamina, and - stamina drain from attacks
  • Cursed armor with indestructible and irreparable (pieces chosen at random because I was looking for the indestructible quality). I think I have 2 cloth and 2 leather. For gems, I’ve set 2x 20% health recovery and 2x 10% health regeneration. As for spells, I haven’t been able to perfect everything because I lack the “Ember Embers,” but I’ve replaced the most useless ones. I remember the +speed after inflicting “shock” on an enemy, +x% electrical damage, +x% armor penetration, +x% damage after dodging, +x% health after killing an enemy, and +x% critical damage.
  • As for rings, I use: +x% carrying capacity (I need it for now to stay light), agility ring (increases speed, stamina, etc.), and as a third, I tried both the x% recoverable health ring and the +x% overall speed ring.

My goal was to create a super-fast build that attacks continuously, even if I take health recovery damage while attacking.
So, a loop of attacking 4-5 times, dodging, bonus, attack, and repeat.
Against bosses, of course, I also have to dodge, but against most enemies, I don’t.

This is from memory; I’ll provide screenshots for details as soon as I can.

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Building a healing build with light armor doesn’t work very well.

This is because the armor scales health and heals, exponentially, so as long as you have little armor and the close range weapon the build will always be difficult to use.

If the leather pieces are legs and body then you have the minimum amount of resistance to make a build work without being perfect (bua still really hard).

You probably should use 2 stamina regen Gems,

Armor penetration I don’t know if it also reduces lightning resistance (probably not).

The other damage enchantments you have are right.

Maybe you should have more defence, Stamina & Focus Enchantments.

You definitely need to:

Remove this ring: Feather Ring

Put levels on equipable load,

Use this ring instead: Jade Ring

Consider swapping between Stone Tusk Ring, Solace Ring & Agility Ring see what works best for you.

Willow Cap Ring (+x% overall speed) is one of the best.

If you want to commit to the Claw of the Crescent Moon

You can Use as runes:
Tremor Wave (Ranged strong AOE low cost) & Skyfall Smash (Doge + Super strong AOE)

Put 3 levels on Focus to have 150 focus.

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These are your minimum stats, you have 6 points left, I recommend you put them on health, but you can put it wherever you want.

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Are you telling me that all health is determined by armor? Good, haha.
I’ve never thought about that. My thought was, “If I set up a self-healing system, I’ll become invincible.”
Do you recommend a set of mesh or leather?

I’m asking because if you say mesh then I have to redo all my armor and I wait for indestructible mail pieces to drop and then I’ll redo it… even if I’m low on embers (I hate the system they created for modifying enchantments, it takes too much time for it not to be PvP).

I had also thought about this weapon: Demon's Key – Curved Sword – Weapons – No Rest For The Wicked Tools

Question :

  • Can you remove the enchantments from legendary weapons and put cursed weapons on them?
  • Can I use radiant embers on rings to max out the spells and then use the sublime ember?
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Yep, Armor is a multiplier of both maximum and healed health, Having double the armor would make your healing almost twice as effective.

If you are willing to go mid roll yes, Better full mesh but you could have leather gloves and helmet.

If you want to stay in Fast roll it is convenient to have a mixed cloth/leather or just leather.

Try with the armor you have if you see that the problem is survival then either you have to become very skilled at not getting hit or you move on to mesh.

Same, If you are interested, read this: The RNG Problem, Enchantment System & Gem System “TOGETHER” (Update) and if you agree, give your vote :wink:.

I don’t think it’s any stronger, but it does get more focus.

If you like that weapon I think you might like this one too: Crooked Key

This is one I have used and I know for sure it is strong.

It’s a wand but it has a very nice moveset and the electric runes are very strong.

No.

You can only use the Radiant Ember on the rings, But they can no longer be sublimated.

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Thanks for your detailed answers.

For now, given the lack of materials and embers, I’ve decided to stick with a completely common set and only use gems (I found an interesting build). Let’s see how it goes. I’ll try it as soon as I get home. This way, I have a simple base to see if I really like it. Then, in the meantime, I’ll accumulate materials and embers and slowly create a truly wicked build.

Regarding radiant embers: they’re a “suck.” I have a general speed ring of +7% (maximum 15%). I tried to see how much it increased, and it went from 7% to 8%. Luckily, it lets you see a preview, so I didn’t waste it. But they might as well not have created these embers since they’re so rare.

In the meantime, thanks for everything. I won’t post any pictures because I’ll try to redo the build, but it will take some time. As soon as I’m done, I’ll write and post pictures.

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As the godfather of speedy gonzales build I reccomend you to checkout the latest bow version of that build and meele version will be done soon as well. https://youtu.be/Vv1Ty5azaF0

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Hey there!

I just wanted to add, that we also have this topic here:

:slight_smile:

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Just want to inform wether you know this or not.

Even though the name is “agility” ring its easy to think it should increase attack/all speed because it used to do that in the past.

Now the only speed it increase is movement speed.

I still have one question, does movement speed affect attack movesets where the character will move forward a certain distance? @Lombix_4

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As I said, I’m away from home and can’t play, so to alleviate my frustration, I’ve been playing around with the Build Planner to try and create something.

I’ve created several until I’ve landed on this one, which seems interesting, but the problem is that I don’t fully understand the effects of all the spells and gems combined.

The idea was to create a heavy tank that spams runic attacks continuously, with physical attacks almost never being used. For defense, either dodge or block.

The goal is to have a quick focus recharge, stamina not important, and health that should always be at maximum, if I take damage I recover it easily.

I’ll post the link here and let me know what you think and what changes you’d make.

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I don’t think so, I think the dash speed is also based on the attack speed. But I haven’t tested this thing.

The build doesn’t work because you don’t generate enough focus, the gems aren’t good because even if you heal a lot your life doesn’t stay fixed at 100% but goes up and down.

You’re underestimating how terrible it is to have low stamina regeneration.

Maybe it could work if you use Chipped Jade Instead, and put stamina regeneration among the effects.

Because to generate enough focus you always have to attack.

Unless you use one of these two rings: Ring of Determination Or Battlecry Ring If you want to spam runes without attacking and you want a strong build you can only use these rings.

But I advise against them because they are so OP that if you have a lifesteal or if you have plenty of food you can trivialize the whole game.

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Thanks for the reply :wink:

So indirectly you’re telling me “build on low health and recover health” and thus destroy the game :slight_smile:

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You don’t need to have low health, any build that uses these three rings is op:
Ring of Determination + Plagued Ring + Rune Ring + a Strong rune (even easier if ranged).

In my opinion, being OP is not very fun, it gets boring quickly, but do what you want to do.

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You can use a mottled pearl gem on your shield in case you get into the low health zone and use gems that boost dmg reduction and lifesteal

In a recovery build you can use a mix of mottled pearl and mottled marble because as soon as you arent in full health zone you lose the effects of mottled marble

So you can use one mottled pearl on the item/items with the recovery enchantments.

Just informing :innocent:

(Theres a “healing increased 15% based on durability” enchant on gloves i believe, healing increases lifesteal i think and some other instances of health recovery)

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I meant something like that

If the effect of the black pearl is stackable (so it reaches 400%), you get great gains in both damage and health recovery.

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No, is 100% of the effect of the item on which the gems are set.

If you use Battlecry Ring you should use, Chipped Jewel, otherwise it’s always better Ring of Determination.

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but as a build do you find it valid and spam runic attacks continuously?