it’s also an arpg, right?
Why does the presence of a “no-reward” pit in the same d4 not cause problems for anyone? Kill the boss - get a reward.
It’s a challenge, and a challenge can’t be easy.
And still, with some nodes, the crucible becomes unrealistically easy.
I don’t know why you all have problems all the time.
I can’t upgrade anymore because the items don’t drop for me. I also need torn sinew which I still haven’t gotten any plagued areas yet. My weapon is level 11 I think, damage is around 150 on my sword, but I am fighting those False knights and the giant false dudes that spawn blue flames beneath you and throw plague at you. It takes me quite a while to kill them, I have to dodge for a long time and recharge my focus a lot during fights
no it is not like wow. Wow is an mmo, and already the fact that there’s other players and healing comes by much easier makes it way different. Crucible is a rogue like, have you played any? I can recommend a few if you want to try: hades, heroes of hammerwatch, deep rock galactic, or darkest dungeon 1 and 2 if you like turn based.
Basically the way rogue-like works is the levels are progressively harder but they don’t adapt to the player. A higher level player just reaches further into the dungeon. And there’s loot in every stage which you can take home with you once you die. Killing the boss is not the goal of a rogue like, you get what I mean?
like I said before, it takes me a lot of hits to kill a single enemy at the level I am at, and I can’t upgrade weapons any further cause resources won’t drop for me. My weapons are at level 11. So even if I kill everything it will take me like an hour to clear the ten stages. The reward at the end isn’t even worth that much time
this applies to rogue lites, where u can carry some progress over or unlock things. real rogue likes leave u with nothing when u die. so crucible is kind of a thing between the two
why can’t you understand that you are too weak? upgrade your weapons. how many fights can you have in darkest dungeon 1 when you are 5 lvl less than the location? the rules are very simple. if there is little damage, raise it, if they kill you quickly, change the armor
Then there’s a design problem. If you want to make it full rogue like with no rewards, you can’t have players consuming stuff from the outside like food or potions. You either heal them by free or you give them something back ,cause otherwise the players have to grind outside gathering materials to bet on a mini game that may consume all and give you nothing valuable. Especially when most deaths happen by accidents, by rune attacks that push you over the edge etc.
please read all before commenting, I can’t upgrade my weapons any further cause resources wont drop for me
those are e lot of issues combined in one here. for rune attacks ledge protection will be coming at some point.
and crucible is a “thing between” rogue like and lite, u get xp, seneschal currency, loot, unlockables etc. so i do not agree with “no resources from outside”. by that logic u would also have to not bring anything from outside inside, or from inside out. imagine how people would like that lol
on the contrary. If you bring things from the outside you should have them replenished by playing. It has to be either fully hermetic or fully open system, from a game design standpoint. Otherwise why choose the crucible at all? I would much rather explore the world where there are chests etc. Right now the crucible doesn’t give you anything worth betting for. It’s like a casino game where you pay but then the rewards are sh** and you could have gotten much more elsewhere
Wait! You have a problem and a way to solve it (just play the game), but you keep hitting the wall? just wait new patch. dev add babyseed for u)
there is no thing between a rogue lite and a rogue like. You either give rewards or don’t. But if they are going to give rewards, they should make it so they are actually worth the real life time. Many people have jobs we don’t have many hours to play, if I put one hour into the game, I should get something for it. Pure rogue likes are very few nowadays, and in general is because it is only for those type of gamers who need the validation from the game and they are happy by feeling they are really good at something. The rest of the people just want to have healthy fun, relax and if you loose it’s fine but you got something for it
but u do get something for it, u unlock stuff at seneschal, get xp, loot etc. how that loot is balanced can and should be discussed, yes, but there are rewards u get to take home with u.
this has turned into a platform for insecure people like you to feel like they are good at something and attack others or brag about… what? How fast you move your thumb? I am just trying to be constructive and tell the devs many people won’t like the crucible as it is, and most commenters agree, so I was right to point it out. You just seem like you need some kind of validation from the pixels on your screen. You aren’t better than anyone just cause you spend more time playing, maybe it’s time to call your therapist
when i heard that the developers were going to make a mode for kids, i was sad, people don’t appreciate the efforts of the developers, players want to ignore all the well-thought-out mechanics of the game and seem cool to themselves.
i agree that they should get an easy mode for kids, but please add this to the difficulty selection
yeah maybe it needs balancing because I got to the seneschal and didn’t want to buy anything from him. I felt it was all useless. I have the respec statue, then “finishing all the building projects” just felt useless. The seneschal repairing? For what? Then the seneschal selling stuff… we can get all that outside! And it is much more fun to play outside where there’s exploring… so again… why would I choose to play the crucible?
You think it’s an insult but it’s actually the other way around. If you think you need to test yourself against a computer, and there’s something to brag about that… I feel sorry for you. Maybe you don’t get validation from anywhere else in your life but don’t come here attacking those people who aren’t seeking a high level of difficulty to feel worthy of their lives. We don’t need that cause we have other things going on outside of videogames. Just balanced stuff would be nice
No need to resort to insults, all people are different, some people easily understand what they need to do, while others eat soup with a fork and cry so that the soup would be thicker.
can we maybe not take this on a personal level. goes for both of you @Youry
My apologies. Thought this could be fun 
