# Immersion destroyed for me + feelings

**URL:** <https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/immersion-destroyed-for-me-feelings/9281>\
**Category:** Wicked Feedback\
**Created:** [April 30, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/immersion-destroyed-for-me-feelings/9281 "2024-04-30T20:48:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![L0nger](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/forum.norestforthewicked.com/l0nger/32/551_2.png) [@L0nger](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/u/L0nger)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/immersion-destroyed-for-me-feelings/9281/1 "2024-04-30T20:48:33Z")

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So the story is that we are a special Cerim and this is why we can save the world. But 99,9% job is done by villagers and enemies equipment, how does this even make sense?

This literally kills all the immersion for me making the entire concept so tedious. I cant play this now 😦

Feels like copy paste of pieces from bad games like diablo 3 or 4. Not the actual coherent design. Very disappointed here.

The level design, animations and graphic style/presentation are amazing tho. At cost of performance sadly.

Game can get boring in the moments of prolonged walking and jumping due to small sound/music depth or lack of some extra meaningful activity.

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**Author:** ![Noktu](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/forum.norestforthewicked.com/noktu/32/3795_2.png) [@Noktu](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/u/Noktu)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/immersion-destroyed-for-me-feelings/9281/2 "2024-04-30T20:59:44Z")

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I don’t quite understand what is killing the immersion for you?

Cerim are part of an old human race that has since declined. Are more attuned to magic and combatting the thousands of years old plague. But are not exactly superhumans, but lets say more capable. Still requiring the assistance of the contemporary humans who have since emerged as the most populous race.

What were you expecting from the story? I was very fascinated with the worldbuilding and definately found myself immersed in the world.

I was able to defeat plague corrupted monsters and renegade henchmen of the Risen. With the assistance provided by the local townsfolk.

And didn’t really feel them providing services to break immersion.

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**Author:** ![L0nger](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/forum.norestforthewicked.com/l0nger/32/551_2.png) [@L0nger](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/u/L0nger)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/immersion-destroyed-for-me-feelings/9281/3 "2024-04-30T21:19:36Z")

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All the power in game is in casual items. Power is what moves everything in the world

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**Author:** ![Volothor\_Solfire](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/forum.norestforthewicked.com/volothor_solfire/32/2704_2.png) [@Volothor\_Solfire](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/u/Volothor_Solfire)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/immersion-destroyed-for-me-feelings/9281/4 "2024-04-30T21:53:21Z")

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I can kind of understand where you’re coming from, there’s a bit of a disconnect between drinking a flask meant to “grant you power”, and it granting… inventory slots? It’s definitely power in the gameplay sense, even just having one of my additional weapon slots unlocked really opened up my build options, but receiving the ability to carry five more discreet items from downing a vial of processed plague magic instead of gaining stats or inherent powers definitely feels… jarring. On the personal power coming from items side of things… you do realize that we seem to cannonically come back from the dead, right? And don’t die horribly from ingesting dubious substances?

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**Author:** ![death\_the\_kid](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/forum.norestforthewicked.com/death_the_kid/32/1176_2.png) [@death\_the\_kid](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/u/death_the_kid)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 2:50am UTC](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/immersion-destroyed-for-me-feelings/9281/5 "2024-05-01T02:50:48Z")

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My brother in christ that’s every RPG ever. I think you’re looking for Bayonetta or Devil May Cry

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**Author:** ![mindlesspuppet](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/forum.norestforthewicked.com/mindlesspuppet/32/1500_2.png) [@mindlesspuppet](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/u/mindlesspuppet)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 3:03am UTC](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/immersion-destroyed-for-me-feelings/9281/6 "2024-05-01T03:03:58Z")

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> [@L0nger](#):
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> All the power in game is in casual items. Power is what moves everything in the world

Pretty fair observation tbh, I hadn’t considered that.

That being said, I think by the end of the Early Access, we’re just starting to get into what a Cerim is and what the can do. So perhaps there’s more to it?

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**Author:** ![L0nger](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/forum.norestforthewicked.com/l0nger/32/551_2.png) [@L0nger](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/u/L0nger)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 6:02am UTC](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/immersion-destroyed-for-me-feelings/9281/7 "2024-05-01T06:02:28Z")

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Just feels like game is about superpowers of villagers who can upgrade the gear. While we are just a tool.

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**Author:** ![Noktu](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/forum.norestforthewicked.com/noktu/32/3795_2.png) [@Noktu](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/u/Noktu)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 6:04am UTC](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/immersion-destroyed-for-me-feelings/9281/8 "2024-05-01T06:04:17Z")

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What would you want fixed? And how it should be fixed?

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**Author:** ![L0nger](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/forum.norestforthewicked.com/l0nger/32/551_2.png) [@L0nger](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/u/L0nger)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 6:05am UTC](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/immersion-destroyed-for-me-feelings/9281/9 "2024-05-01T06:05:09Z")

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Thats broken immersion. I stated bad games have this broken. Diablo 1 and 2 which i played are coherent in this regard so you’re wrong.

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**Author:** ![L0nger](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/forum.norestforthewicked.com/l0nger/32/551_2.png) [@L0nger](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/u/L0nger)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 6:10am UTC](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/immersion-destroyed-for-me-feelings/9281/10 "2024-05-01T06:10:45Z")

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This seems like fundamental part of design of entire game. I don’t think just a tweak is enough, but rather needs deeper thoughts about entire gameplay experience.

I don’t know entire game and would require much involvment from me to find possible solutions.

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**Author:** ![Noktu](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/forum.norestforthewicked.com/noktu/32/3795_2.png) [@Noktu](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/u/Noktu)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/immersion-destroyed-for-me-feelings/9281/11 "2024-05-01T06:19:16Z")

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I’m sure you’ll love the game when it comes out. Is the game localized in your native tongue?

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**Author:** ![Sticky\_White\_Stuff](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/forum.norestforthewicked.com/sticky_white_stuff/32/3873_2.png) [@Sticky\_White\_Stuff](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/u/Sticky_White_Stuff)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/immersion-destroyed-for-me-feelings/9281/12 "2024-05-01T06:19:27Z")

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I take it that Cerim were only special because they respawn, allowing them to fight the monsters by just keeping at it until it dies. Though that doesn’t explain why you are the last of your kind as the townsfolk tell you, so I’m probably wrong.

> [@Volothor\_Solfire](#):
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> I can kind of understand where you’re coming from, there’s a bit of a disconnect between drinking a flask meant to “grant you power”, and it granting… inventory slots?

The plague ichor just expanding inventory slots is anticlimactic. There’s a thread suggesting we get some sort of feat/perk system instead that I really liked.

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**Author:** ![L0nger](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/forum.norestforthewicked.com/l0nger/32/551_2.png) [@L0nger](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/u/L0nger)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 2:18pm UTC](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/immersion-destroyed-for-me-feelings/9281/14 "2024-05-01T14:18:32Z")

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I hope. What about my “tongue”?

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**Author:** ![L0nger](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/forum.norestforthewicked.com/l0nger/32/551_2.png) [@L0nger](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/u/L0nger)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 2:19pm UTC](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/immersion-destroyed-for-me-feelings/9281/15 "2024-05-01T14:19:20Z")

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No mam I went to a random villager, upgraded my items and got at least 5 times stronger

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**Author:** ![Noktu](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/forum.norestforthewicked.com/noktu/32/3795_2.png) [@Noktu](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/u/Noktu)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 2:19pm UTC](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/immersion-destroyed-for-me-feelings/9281/16 "2024-05-01T14:19:57Z")

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Can you play the game in your native language. I was wondering if something is lost in translation.

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**Author:** ![L0nger](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/forum.norestforthewicked.com/l0nger/32/551_2.png) [@L0nger](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/u/L0nger)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/immersion-destroyed-for-me-feelings/9281/17 "2024-05-01T14:21:20Z")

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I don’t even remember what language I played and I don’t see a connection. I talk about how mechanics built in the world are fundamental for the actual world creation. It has nothing to do with narrative

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**Author:** ![L0nger](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/forum.norestforthewicked.com/l0nger/32/551_2.png) [@L0nger](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/u/L0nger)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 2:32pm UTC](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/immersion-destroyed-for-me-feelings/9281/18 "2024-05-01T14:32:28Z")

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I’m constantly being told in every single opportunity how Cerim I am and how people hope I will save them but then some random villager makes me 5 times stronger with 0 effort. It just doesn’t add up at all

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**Author:** ![Noktu](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/forum.norestforthewicked.com/noktu/32/3795_2.png) [@Noktu](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/u/Noktu)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/immersion-destroyed-for-me-feelings/9281/19 "2024-05-01T14:36:33Z")

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Thank you. I like villager strong, and I want to play villager.

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**Author:** ![L0nger](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/forum.norestforthewicked.com/l0nger/32/551_2.png) [@L0nger](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/u/L0nger)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 2:48pm UTC](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/immersion-destroyed-for-me-feelings/9281/20 "2024-05-01T14:48:01Z")

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Even the prolog on the ship tells that you pick up anything and you are able to beat the entire ship of enemies. But no there is a twist soon. It’s the casually introduced villager in sacrament who holds the power of the world in his hands

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**Author:** ![Noktu](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/forum.norestforthewicked.com/noktu/32/3795_2.png) [@Noktu](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/u/Noktu)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 2:51pm UTC](https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/immersion-destroyed-for-me-feelings/9281/21 "2024-05-01T14:51:51Z")

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You want to be god villager?

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