Cosmetics Wardrobe

[MSTRL]

That could also work fine. But if the devs ever include Co-op to play with friends, would be nice to see what transmog my friends are wearing.

But if making it invisible is a more easier and viable option then sure I think its fine.

[MSTRL]

Im also doing a sword and board build, but Im trying to do a more ‘heavy knight’ build that uses a great shield and shoving.

I like using the Stormwall Armour set and the Crestfallen Knight Armour set.

[MSTRL]

I think games should be inclusive and not exclusive. The solution to transmogs and PvP is as simple as turning it off during PvP.

MMORPGs have done it, so I dont see why No Rest cant do it. Have faith in the devs, let them cook.

[Bl.z]

Another player treating NRFTW like “his” game. Zenith, let other players enjoy it and speak with respect. Whether you like it or not, NRFTW is not a pure role-playing game like Planescape: Torment, Pillars of Eternity, or BG3. Besides, Thomas has talk that there will be PvP, so why all the hate? Enjoy NRFTW, its world, and allow other players to enjoy a PvP system that could be fun and excellent, like almost everything this game offers.

Repeat, I like cosmetics and I want them. I don’t want to take anything away from you, I just wish those changes could only be seen by the player themselves, and if they want to share them (which is perfectly natural), other players could see them by inspecting the character.

[MSTRL]

Agree with the last part. Can’t stand my character wearing a jumbled mess of an outfit. Breaks my immersion and ruins the RP I have for my Cerim.

[Zenith]

This is literally what I said in my reply you quoted, to keep the PvP limitations without hurting PvE players.

It is you who told me I cannot enjoy transmog as I want it because you want to play PvP. You don’t own the game anymore than PvE players do, and it’s unfair when players who want to play single player PvE as the format of an RPG traditionally is are punished by some online multiplayer pvp gimmick.

I will never participate in only pvp, I’ve had enough toxic trolls in WoW and league and Overwatch to know the format is infested with people who behave badly because without human GMs personally checking reports, automated systems are worthless and pvp trolls never get punished, so people in online multiplayers behave like psychopaths to strangers with impunity.

[Bl.z]

At no point did I say you shouldn’t enjoy cosmetics, and honestly, I think you’re getting a bit worked up. Meanwhile, there’s someone here talking like PvP players should just suck it up and NRFTW is their game:

@Zenith

I don’t care about your PvP. I don’t play PvP. Keep your PvP rules to your niche format. If I wanted to PvP, I’d go suffer in some MOBA or FPS.

Not in my RPG.

@Zenith

To hell with PvP. The vast majority of RPG players do not want to PvP. Look at the breakdowns for any MMO or even Diablo. PvP is a gimmick, and all it brings is pain because players complain a lot more fircely about PvP balance than PvE because AI can be played around as it’s scripted, whereas player advantages are critical to the experience.

Where did I say you can’t enjoy cosmetics? I simply explained why cosmetics (as Thomas already mentioned) have an impact on PvP, and I made a suggestion so they can exist without causing that issue. My advice: relax a bit before reading and replying

[Zenith]

You are selectively editing out the following sentence, which stated that if limits need to exist for the sake of PvP, to let them exist in PvP.

I’ll be honest. I don’t think this conversation will be productive. You already DM’d me your thread when I submitted feedback about how good hotfix 3 was, and the thread is titled how to make the game accessible without dumbing it down. I know what the implication of that DM’d thread was, that the game is being dumbed down. And we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

We are coming to the game for different reasons and desires, and you can advocate for yours while I’ll advocate for mine and let the cards fall where they may.